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[Weekly Poll] MIUI Weekly Poll #28: Can Project Treble Fix Android Fragmentation? Vote Here!

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Hi MIUIers,


Welcome to the another weekly poll, last week we discussed about 'How to Justify a Smartphone's Upgrade?' here are the poll results.

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Some replies from forum users:

I say keep the old way: hardware focused. Why? Software can be upgraded MUCH easier than hardware (which in smartphone case, hardware upgrade is near impossible). So if you have great hardware specs with sucky software, there's still a high chance to get a superb working phone in the future. Whereas if the hardware sucks from the start, it won't last long until software requirement can no longer be fulfilled and the phone must be completely replaced.

Once I can no longer do what I need to with a phone or can no longer see through the cracked screen I will upgrade. Then I will get the best phone I can for the money so I don't have to upgrade for a while.

If a phone's successor is better in several areas like performance, battery life, display/camera quality & design, it can be called an upgrade over its predecessor. Upgrades in just one/two areas doesn't qualify as an upgrade, it's called improvement.
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OnePlus 3 & 3T r perfect example of improvement. {That's why 3T didn't get a higher number (OnePlus 4/5)}
While Mi series gave us an upgrade with Mi 6.


Today's topic is "Can Project Treble fix Android Fragmentation?"


What is Android Fragmentation:
Android is fragmented in the sense that the active phones run a large variety of versions and even new phones often do not get updated to the latest version of Android. This can result in more completed development for apps as well as at times incompatible apps as well as frustrated users.


What is Project Treble:
Project Treble is to separate the Android OS from the hardware allowing Android to be updated easier, since the SoC manufactured does not need to get involved in the update the update process should be quicker.

Google has been developing Android and releasing version updates for some time but one of the largest frustrations of the end users is updates often are slow or non existent. Some phones do get updates but often users get frustrated at the slow roll out of updates. While phones from Google like the Pixel and before that the Nexus would get updates quickly the other manufacturers would take months at least to roll out an update if at all.

This is a diagram of how Project Treble changes Android 's design
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According to https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html the current breakdown of Android versions in the field is quite a spead of versions right from Gingerbread to Nougat.
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Current Android Install base

While Project Treble is not a solution to the current phones in the field, do you think this is the beginning of eliminating fragmentation in the future for new devices or is there a different and better solution?

Can Project Treble Fix Android Fragmentation?
Take a look at our poll and have your say!

20 relevant and creative replies will receive the 'MIUI Weekly Poll' medal!

If you want to explain your choices, don't forget to reply below!
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No, miles to go before it's achieved. this is just a start alone. "Project Treble is only addressing the primary step: Google and silicon manufacturers have finally created a stable 'Vendor Interface' that the hardware and OS can plug into"

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13:10, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi Pro
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No. Many manufacturers still need to add in new features into new software updates. Only will be effective for companies like Lenovo Moto.
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13:50, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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Yes it should be a good idea especially if the vendor interface is considerate like an API...
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it is hard for android updates to get to the consumers when manufacturers want to meddle with the software

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Trying is better than giving up. But, Today's Android has too much fragmentation of things. This will not be easy but not necessarily also fails, at least can reduce the number of old versions of Android
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15:29, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi 3S
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That seems like a great idea, but some people will choose not to upgrade nonetheless. At least we can be certain that the manufacturers won't lock the system to a specific version, since that would make less people buy their products and that means less profit and that means no money.

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I think it will solve part of the fragmentation as some people may not like to upgrade as sometimes there is not really any major changes between two versions.

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It's still upto the OEM's if they'd spend $$$ on developing Android updates for older models other than spend that $$$ for R&D of their next model. It's true that in the present situation, SoC makers are the easy scapegoat (hello Mediatek) of not releasing source codes but again it comes down to the OEM's. So pick a device from a trusted company that is known for being speedy in updates.

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It will only help a bit & again mostly only to Google. It can help if leveled in updating property binary blobs along with framework but again this will fall only to the ones using Googles un changed Android framework (posable also AOSP but my experience says otherwise). All the real work on the kernel side (back end changes) will still need to be done from OEM's side (helped from SoC manufacturer's). So long story short it won't help fragmentation problem that will mostly stay the same o.

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16:40, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi 4X
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This is a good idea but I think it will not help much in reality. This level of abstraction will cost performance and developers work.

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16:43, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi 3S
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To some extent it will but not fully as the mid range phones aren't getting quicker updates due to either branding issue or some Hardware issues.So Everything needs to be taken into Cognizance.!!!

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17:41, Jun-05-2017 | From Mi 5s
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I think that not but will reduce it a lot. Because there will still be brands that they don't want to develop updates even if Project Treble makes them easier. However, it's a great idea that will help a lot into the problem.

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Hold the horses.  Let's not forget that phone manufacturers are in business to sell phones.  Anything that gets in the way will be surpressed.

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To an extend Project Tremble may resolve issues of fragmentation but still there might be Smartphone companies that doesn't wants to provide further updates to it's existing devices and roll out a new version of the same device with the new software. This will help them lure more customers who are looking forward to the latest OS.

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18:26, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi Note 4X
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Considering the biggest impediment to upgrades is probably vendor modifications to Android, facilitating a more defined boundary between the core O/S and Vendor facilities should eliminate the problem, so long as the vendors stay in their own jurisdiction.

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I hope it does. Who doesn't want to have the latest Android version, anyway. It's just that there's a lot of factors to take into account. Like the fact that some people upgrade to a new phone just because of the ability to have the new OS version. I just hope the issue is resolved someday.

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dont think it will go far away since manufacturers of smartphone must want people to buy their phone. so, the non ability to upgrade OS easily force users to change to the latest phone. it is called profit. i love xiaomi becoz you guys really know hok to serve low class people like me n many more. keep on good works guys

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it will be great as all phone will be on Simillar updates with same android version... this will also help the app developper to provide similar functionality with best results on all devices... the users will be most happiest with all new updated version ans its features
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19:34, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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I think the most important thing is the intention to improve the situation, whether it is successful or it will not be seen over time

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19:55, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi Note 3
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I'm not sure if it will make the releases faster but it will help a lot

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10:36, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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Yes Project Treble will resolve fragmentation

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yes project will resolve fragmentation

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10:48, Jun-05-2017 | From Mi Max Prime
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i'm hopeful that treble will be the start of resolving the update issue permanently

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10:51, Jun-05-2017 | Via mobile
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Yes Project Treble will resolve fragmentation

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10:52, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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It's a positive step.
My phone lost its virginity to MIUI
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http://en.miui.com/thread-31763-1-1.html
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10:57, Jun-05-2017 | From Redmi Note 3
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Yes, it would be amazing if it comes true...
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10:57, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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I hope so

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11:00, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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Yes Project Treble will resolve fragmentation

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11:01, Jun-05-2017 | From PC
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Maybe with the Project Treble, we do not need to worry about the old device, because it can still get update os

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