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[Others] MIUI Weekly Poll #13: Will Xiaomi's Rumoured Pinecone SoC Succeed? Vote Here!

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Hello MIUIers!

Last week @sepneela asked us whether CRT TVs will disappear in future or not. Most of the people think that, yes they will disappear gradually. Here are the results:


Some of the best replies:

Human being is evolving so is technology, for instance we can take an example of engines. A decade ago it was the generation of 2 stroke engines, they worked quite well and were used widely but gradually as the technology moved forward 4 stroke engines were made which were more efficient , economic as well as more eco- friendly. And thus 2 stroke engines were phased out.
It is the same scenario with CRT TV. They were good and served the purposes well but now OLED , AMOLED & IPS LCD TV have outperformed the CRT TV on every aspect, be it the picture quality, resolution or even the physical size and power efficiency. Even the old LCD & Plasma TV  are slowly being phased out.
In my opinion its a huge step up in terms of technology and the CRT TV have practically started disappearing from the market.

everyone loves curve and slim tv.. when the prices will drop I think everybody would love to have curve or flat tv as you can save space and electricity and of course more vibrant colors.. real life display

it's funny that they still exist, from my point of view they will surely disappear in future cause they eat a lot of power and space. it's the time when people need everything in their pocket, compact little things to save most of the things. I personally have seen and used those old TV's with sliding doors Infront, they were something at that point, but now people have evolved and even thier thinking, have become lazy toooo!!!




Today let's talk about the
rumoured Pinecone SoC and also see whether it will be successful or not.

Chinese OEMs always have a slight profit margin. They are known for their aggressive pricing which result in a stiff competition among them. Now with the increasing performance in the budget segment, it gets difficult for the OEMs to maintain a competitive price. Talking about Xiaomi, it wasn't an exceptional last year for them, instead of releasing a lot of devices in almost all the price segments. Well the reason for the downfall is hard to think. Xiaomi, which was leading China in smartphones sold in 2015, is reportedly down to 5th position in recent times; trailing to Oppo, Huawei, Vivo and Apple. It is pretty obvious that it is looking to improve in some areas an make its pricing more attractive.

Recent report by The Wall Street Journal, suggests that Xiaomi is planning to come up with a device based on a home made Pinecone SoC. This device is expected to come by the next month. This could also help Xiaomi to settle down patent issues which forces Xiaomi to power the phones launched in India on SnapDragon SoCs, which in a way prevents it from releasing phones based on MediaTek SoCs. It will also help Xiaomi to optimize their hardware and software experiences.

But the question which is left unanswered is that how will it do in lights of SnapDragon and MediaTek? There are also some risks in contrast to the advantages it brings.

So the question for this poll is-


Will the rumoured Pinecone SoC succeed and also will it help Xiaomi to regain its prestige?

Take part in the poll and let us know your choice!

Also if you want to explain your choice, then please leave a reply below

20 best replies will receive the 'MIUI Weekly Poll' medal!

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11:58, Feb-13-2017 | From PC
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No, for now. But it will depend on apps compatibility. As intel chips r not supporting asphalt 8.if any such prblm comes with pinecon, it may b a failure

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16:51, Feb-13-2017 | From PC
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I think that the idea of Pinecone SoC is a winning strategy for the company. However, it will be necessary to ensure a good support in the community by releasing the source code.

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still to early to judge, i still don't know the advantage of pinecone SoC, compared to other big player in SoC like qualcomm or samsung.
but if i have to guess, the answer is no. it will be fail in most aspect, nowday tech is rapidly evolve and many big player always play fast and take advantage to anything they can do. i don't know how xiaomi is gonna play with that kind of competition.

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The processor of its own production will untie the hands of the company now will not be depending on suppliers, will make as much as you need and certainly more profitable. Hope to do that optimization by the private CPU will be better than the same MediaTek? Too early to tell. I hope that he will not only be a product "push the boundaries of innovation," but a good springboard, allowing the company to conquer new heights and restore its credibility.

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I think it will be difficult to convince people to buy an unknown SoC, along with uncertainty regarding long term updates to their equipment. The use of commonly available SoCs offers more guarantees of regular, future updates. It would also keep software development process down, as every manufacturer using it would be working out the bugs, this lowering overall equipment price.
For it to work the pricetag would have to be way lower, leeching very little room for profit.

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It will depends on how the market will accept it. Are people needs in the future can be pleased from their gadgets? Are they more satisfy than the competitors? With an optimum combination of good SoC and the other parts that build a "gadget", no matter what their brand, I am sure that Xiaomi can gain success in the future. Keeping up the quality without risking to much cost is one of the key.

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Xiaomi will rules if stay intact in prices, quality and frequent updates, more options for people with less or more technology, the stability of xiaomi is great nothing to worry with another company's products by the way the designs of xiaomi are good but maybe people search for another phone for color, size, hardware, RAM or ROM maybe...
In México its new xiaomi products and people don't know what product are but are better than others phones, by the way keep Snapdragon and quality in xiaomi products and will be the first choice foe people.
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Well, Xiaomi will depend less from Qualcomm and other OEMs (Like LG G6 comes with older Snapdragon chipset beacuse of Samsung), but Mi phones will lose the possibility of installing custom ROMs. But overall, I think it will succeed.

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its always better to have a backup ready.. right now Samsung and Qualcomm seem to have a monopoly over the supply of their upcoming sd835. even Huawei got their own chipset so why not Xiaomi ?

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00:46, Feb-14-2017 | From PC
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If the 1st cpu of the company is directly compared to sd 800 series , then it will be a grand seccess in future ,if it is a well powered cpu

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success is possible and achievable, only if optimization is better than what we have today with Snapdragon.....

i don't know how much of a difference it would make to have your own homegrown processor considering that its Android based, and a lot of the underlying stuff will still be up to Google's choices with development.

its a popular idea that Apple is able to optimize IOS because the create the whole stack , hardware and software but how much of that is possible with Android?

i'm guessing between Huawei and Xiaomi we will find out.  but why not, Go For It

For one thing, i definitely believe it WILL be better than using Mediatek

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yes it will, because their own processor help them to make own highly  custmize UI(MIUI) more responsive according to thier need.

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i don't think it will succeed , like exynos it will be a failure for a long time , needs reputation to be gained its will not happen in a day , and success depends on design and compatibility too , and what GPU is utilized , performance of the SOC , battery management , heat management , especially people shud trust and accept ti , this process will take years to happen , and needs to be pure open source to ensure better custom ROM development (it played a main role in success of Snapdragon and reason for non popularity of other SOCs) to gain success soon , but Xiaomi won't do it , so it will be a failure for sure .

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people are familiar with mtk and sd SoC which actually takes a really long time as they get trusted overtime.  When Xiaomi first launched their product on India people appreciated them but were confused same time as major companies were battling for 'survival of the fittest'.  Then Xiaomi overtook and took the trophy because understood the market and hearts of million enthusiasts. Xiaomi sold billions of phones still now with mixed feedback still and will continue as they recover from past and see the future. Xiaomi been popular with SD soc with hardcore performance for devices.  Now I'm hearing about Pinecone technology few days back and I'm too excited like others here. I don't know much about it so I wouldn't bring technical terms here.  We've seen already that the 14nm chipset has made a mark on people's heart as new SD 625 soc bringing fluid impression on RN4. With amazing devices every year people are brought in line more we expected. Hopefully Xiaomi proved their 'fitness' through the years of 'survival' and people are trusting in Xiaomi future.  Xiaomi always stayed with the people and by the people unlike others.  Pinecone or whatever new technology Xiaomi brings in life I believe people would be honored to seek a taste in it. Now as far as market concerns haters will always hate, that I know.

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I think that depends on how well Xiaomi make this Pincone SoC to greatly improve their smartphone. I believe that SoC is not all about higher clock and benchmark performance. I strongly believe that the energy/power usage efficiency and heat management will also be the deciding factor for this SoC to success. Well in my opinion as along as Xiaomi Pincone can exceed MTK performance, than it will be a great success. And I have a high expectation about this Pincone SoC.

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This post was edited by wloiharto at 15:09, Feb-14-2017

marketing flagship smartphone with private SoC? There will be lot of homework to maintain. First, how well it compared to another 'big boys' like Snapdragon and Mediatek?
Then how about developer support? As we could see now, xiaomi dev not really open in terms of source code. The more open dev for source code then more custom rom and of course more geek people that would like to try this new smatphone. For example why there is so much custom ROM for RN3 kenzo? because it's SoC SD 650 was one of the flagship on mid-range smartphones. Xiaomi takes smart steps with adopt it to their mid range phones. There are dozen  more custom rom and kernel for this powerful beast compared to another variant, Henessy and Kate.
Based on experience, private SoC was not get updates more than 2 Android OS releases. That's developer to blame.
So for Xiaomi's private SoC to success, first ti should be as good to compete with another flagship SoC and the most important thing is developer support to updates the rom for their own son. Because nobody know them better than their own father.

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18:20, Feb-14-2017 | From Mi 5
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Having their own processors means shortened development time of the software to complement the hardware. Also, developing their own processors means cost savings for the company which Xiaomi will be able to produce even more affordable phones for their customers.
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23:37, Feb-14-2017 | From Redmi 4A
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It will depend what goal Xiaomi want to achieve by realizing of this product. It will be product for budget phones or premium? Budget segment give more opportunity on my opinion. If this Pinecone will show  long work with good quality about 3-5 years - Xiaomi will rise again on the top. But I don't know for what market they want realize that product. I don't know Chinese phone market for example.

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I think it will succeed, Xiaomi have shown through MIUI that they can make great software. Now imagine if they make their own processors, they will be able to optimize their software for their processors and make their processors tuned for their software. We will be looking at increased performance across the board, better battery life and generally increased efficiency for every task (small or big).

The only other company offering such optimization between software and hardware is Apple and it's no secret that this optimization is something greatly appreciated by the tech community. The big downside of Apple's iPhone? Extremely restricted software. This is where MIUI will shine.

MIUI offers both an easy to use interface for those who enjoy their phones in such a way BUT also offers the option to heavily customize the OS for those who prefer it that way.

Bottom line is, Xiaomi will be able to offer much better performance and efficiency then it's competitors all while offering the user the choice for the look and feel of his OS. A winning formula.

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In my opinion new SoC is a great opportunity, but it could also be great peril.

If Xiaomi will own enough of Intelectual Property of upcoming chip to make it "open" (i.e. publish all required kernel sources without the need for binary blobs) and if Xiaomi show will to open source necessary modifications (up to the point of merging them upstream into mainline Linux Kernel). Then new SoC and devices built on it would become Holly Grail of mobile hackers.

On the other hand, if Xiaomi become as problematic to work with for 3rd party developers as MediaTek, then hackers would not touch new devices.


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09:53, Feb-13-2017 | From PC
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well will be success IF the price are low and the power is enough!

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Yes, I think it will be a success if it happens.

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It should be always comparable with apple and snapdragon processor otherwise definately going to fail

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Yes, I think it will be a success if it happens.

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Let's take it into a test and let's see.

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Yes, I think it will be a success if it happens

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yes I think

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no ithink it will fail to male an impact

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Yes, I think it will be a success if it happens.

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