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[Quick Discussion] [Quick Discussion #16] Which One Do You Prefer: eSIM or Normal SIM Card? Why?

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Hello MIUI Fans,             
              Welcome to our new Quick Discussion Volume #16. Our last discussion was Will Dual Fingerprint Scanning Become Trend or Just Trick?. Here comes another interesting discussion, "Which One Do You Perfer eSIM or Normal SIM Card & Why?"

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Normal SIM Card
        SIM literally means "Subscriber Identity Module", and it’s just a simple memory chip that holds identity information about cellphone users. SIM cards are usually integrated into a UICC (Universal Integrated Circuit Card), PVC cards with metal contacts.

       SIM cards hold a unique 20-character ID number called the ICCID (Integrated Circuit Card Identifier), which is needed to port the number between different operators. It also  contains an ISMI number (International Mobile Subscriber Identity), which is basically your phone number, some security information, a list of services the user has access to and two security codes. The first code is your PIN (Personal Identification Number) and the second is the PUK (Personal Unblocking Code), which helps us unlock the PIN if there are too many failed attempts.
            SIM cards also contain an SMS memory and personal contacts. The memory on standard SIM cards ranges from 8 KB to 256 KB, which is enough space for more than 250 contacts. However nowadays it’s much safer to keep your contacts in the cloud than on your SIM card.


     The first smart UICCs were the size of a credit card. Over the years, they’ve been getting smaller and smaller. All this information is necessary to be able to make calls and for correct data traffic between the mobile networks of different carriers.

eSIM (Embedded SIM Card)
        The name eSIM means embedded SIM, which is a SIM card integrated into something. It’s not a real SIM card, but rather an integrated chip that follows SON-8 standard directly within a device, which means it can’t be removed or switched out.


eSIM Pros :
  • It is Reliable, Programmable
  • Small Size, will take less space for smartphone circuit  design
  • Integrated on board



eSIM Cons:
  • Take time to implement
  • Can't be removed or ejected



              Which One Do You Prefer eSIM or Normal SIM Card & Why?

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14:20, May-09-2018 | From Redmi Note 3
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eSim can't be removed or ejected if this is true then i would definitely stick to nano or mirco sim. I think eSim is probably waste if you consider developing technology which cannot meet requirement of sim which can be removed by anyone as per their needs.

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15:10, May-09-2018 | From PC
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for now, I prefer the normal SIM cards, because here in PH some areas have good signal for the specific network provider while that provider have bad signal in other specific area also, so there is a need of removable or replaceable SIM.
eSIM is good if you have only one network provider in your country, in my opinion
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eSIM will have big problems because of carriers policy. They be able lock your phone for one carrier only, even if the device is unlocked. I want always be ready to change the carrier, that's why - nanoSIM is the best.

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21:48, May-09-2018 | From Redmi 4X
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esim sounds good only for the reason that it takes less space on board. Considering that the space occupied is so small when compared to traditional sim cards, I would live with normal sim as it ia easy to replace if we are switching between networks and also for getting a new one if the existing got damaged.
if the sim is build on board, replacing the sim module itself makes it too expensive as it needs board level diagnosis and fix.
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00:14, May-10-2018 | From Redmi Note 3
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Many of us don't even have the slightest idea of what exactly an eSIM isandhow does it operates. Basically its a new technology that would help the user to eradicate the process of getting the normal sims replaced in case its damaged or user ports to other operator.
This is the new breakthrough in telecom where eSIM would be embedded onto the devices itself thereby eradicating the process of frequent sim change and the user need not to worry for any programming sort of things by themselves. The user will continue to use the services as usual and rest of the peogramming part will be taken care by operator.

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Normal sim cards are preferable cause they are handy to use wherever one finds himself or herself and needed to swap sim for another network just like we love the idea of memory card slot on smart phones compared to just in built stand-alone phones and that's a particular feature that makes us we the MIUIers-Android users flexible than the apple users, so to me is all about flexibility.

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06:52, May-10-2018 | From PC
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I fear when esim comes, the hardware manufactirer will lock there harware up, so that most people can't open it anaymore.
When the sim is integrated and the accu isn't remnovable, there will ne no need that user can open there mobile anymore.
when all mobile parts where exchangeble, the ppeople whouöd have their handy longer and we would have much less electirc waste.
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13:25, May-10-2018 | From Redmi Note 3
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eSIM... they are smaller and that means that they can be used virtually anywhere, even on wearables.
it is also easier to switch to new network especially when traveling to a different region

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17:31, May-10-2018 | From PC
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Physical SIM.

This is a very though question. When look at the implementation process of an esim it is not friendly to those who might want to switch their phone numbers often without visiting a specialist. This literally mean the phone is not transferable to any other person even temporarily.

On the flip side it reduces phone theft i believe.

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I feel eSIM should be the way forward, as it will eliminate the task of physically changing sim cards when we port to different service cellular service providers. However, till such technological solution is available with all hardware providers as well cellular network providers, normal sim would continue

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I'd say eSIM would be nice if it would help reducing the eWaste / plastic waste as this piece of plastic (and the whole card where the SIM, whatever the size, is embedded first) is really one usage only (i mean, cannot be reprogrammed once used with one account ). It would also be nice if it would be as easy to change the configuration of the eSIM just like the "easyness" to change a SIM card in a unlocked SIM Device.

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eSIM , As its embedded to our devices we have certainly more security, If we lose or misplace our phones it would be very helpful. As seeing of disadvantage , While we upgrade or change our device we should be able to use the same identity number of eSIM.

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12:10, May-11-2018 | From Redmi Note 3 MTK
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I prefer eSIM cause it is small and secure. Manufacturers can reduces the handset size. And it prevents to steal your phone. Unauthorized person can not change the phone number like normal SIM.

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This post was edited by justzzshadz at 21:58, Jun-18-2018

I prefer the standard SIM it allows freedom of choice. One there is an eSIM the phone companies will have greater control. I have xaiomi MI MIX 2 that is capable of operating on the USA CDMA circuit but Sprint and Verizon will not allow me to use on there systems because they want make a profit on the phone. With a standard SIM I have control over the phone but with the eSIM they can control you.
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If you think the companyies will let port it just look at the USA currently I port any GSM phone but not CDMA phones. Take away the removal sim and you lose control. The phone companies will restrict service to only the phones they can make a profit on. I see the phone companies all around the world saying how much safer it if they are the ones "protect" use, but that real reason. At present if they were so benevolent each phone has a unique IMEI # and could be disabled and black listed if stolen, thus it would be useless to a theft.

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07:51, May-12-2018 | From Redmi Note 4X
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I prefer the normal SIM card over the eSIM, because if I want to switch phones, I don't want to have to make a bunch of calls and be put on hold. This is what CDMA (Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular, etc...) networks already do in the USA. That's why I went with a GSM based provider.

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16:52, May-12-2018 | From Mi 6
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The eSIM would have many advantages over the SIM, more data and more resources for our smartphone programming, either by the manufacturers or by the user.
Regarding the change between mobile phone companies, from my point of view, it would be the smartphone itself recognized by the mobile company and not a simple replaceable card, resulting in being safer for our mobile.
The change of mobile company would be faster, because it would not be necessary to indicate the ICCID and other data because they are already in the eSIM, just read it and schedule new company data.
Yes, I prefer the eSIM, size, programmable memory, security, ...

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La eSIM tendría muchísimas ventajas sobre la SIM, más datos y más recursos para nuestro smartphone por la programación, bién por los fabricantes o por el usuario. En lo referente al cambio entre compañías de telefonía móvil, desde mi punto de vista, sería el propio smartphone el reconocido por la compañía móvil y no una simple tarjeta sustituible, resultando ser más seguro para nuestro móvil.
El cambio de compañía de móvil resultaría más rápido, pues no haría falta indicar el ICCID y demás datos pues ya están en la eSIM, sólo leerlo y programar nuevos datos de compañía.
Sí, prefiero la eSIM, tamaño, memoria programable, seguridad,…

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23:01, May-16-2018 | From Redmi 3S
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If esims become a standard then there won't be a two factor authentication. You will only need to guess the PIN and no longer need to physically have the SIM. That makes a huge breach in security because if someone can fake it's you then they got your number

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18:46, May-18-2018 | From Mi Max 2
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eSIM is more compact and integrated.As it is getting smaller it fits well with new devices and doesn't take unnecessary space. It is more safe and secure than normal SIM as it transmit correct data between different carriers of service providers.I rather go for eSIM.

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09:04, May-21-2018 | From Redmi 5 Plus
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Today it is easy to buy a phone or smartphone, so today using the Android phone, tomorrow using a normal iPhone. The question is: How can contact smoothly? The simcard itself solved the problem. Not sure if Esim has the advantage of converting the device or changing service requires assistance from the service provider. That would be too annoying.

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09:59, May-09-2018 | From Redmi Note 3
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Nano sim

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09:59, May-09-2018 | From Redmi Note 4X
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nano sim is good

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09:59, May-09-2018 | From Redmi Note 4X
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yes of course it's looking good

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10:02, May-09-2018 | From PC
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NANO & MICRO ARE GOOD

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10:03, May-09-2018 | From PC
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micro and nano sim

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10:04, May-09-2018 | From Redmi Note 4X
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Prefer Normal SIM Cards

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10:04, May-09-2018 | From Redmi 5 Plus
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e sim

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10:06, May-09-2018 | From PC
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normal SIM Card!

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10:09, May-09-2018 | From Mi MIX 2
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e sim

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