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[Discussion] [Device Team] MIUI Monthly Talk-Dec 2017: Redmi 5 Plus, Gallery and Battery Tech

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          Hi, guys, this is cherri94 your beloved custom ROMs reviewer, and welcome to our latest volume of MIUI Monthly Talk - Dec 2017. Last month we had seen about Redmi 5A, SD845, Mi Drop, and Face Recognition: A Trend or Necessity which was written by our team member @Saraadi In this Monthly talk, we will be talking about new tech, latest features, and a lot more let me tell you what are the topics we are going to deal with now.

1. Talk of the Month: Redmi 5 Plus
2. Tech of the Month: Samsung new battery technology
3. MIUI's Ahead: MIUI Gallery editing feature
4. Discussion of the Month: Qualcomm Vs Kirin Vs Exynos

Talk of the Month

Redmi 5 Plus

          On December 7th Xiaomi announced Redmi 5 Plus in China. The new smartphone comes with features you normally see on flagship devices, such as an 18:9 display with rounded corners, a camera with large pixels for better photos and a front Selfie-light for well-exposed, natural selfies. Xiaomi set very high standards for the Redmi series, and Mi Fans have already come to expect a great user experience

Highlights of Redmi 5 Plus:

  • 1. 5.99-inch (2160 × 1080 pixels) Full HD+ 18:9 2.5D curved glass display with 450 nits Brightness, 84% NTSC Color Gamut, 1000: 1 Contrast Ratio
  • 2. 2GHz Octa-Core Snapdragon 625 14nm Mobile Platform with Adreno 506 GPU
  • 3. 3GB RAM with 32GB storage, 4GB RAM with 64GB storage, expandable memory up to 128GB with microSD
  • 4. Android 7.1.2 (Nougat) with MIUI 9
  • 5. Hybrid Dual SIM (nano + nano / microSD)
  • 6. 12MP rear camera with dual-tone LED Flash, 1.25μm pixel size, f/2.2 aperture, PDAF
  • 7. 5MP front-facing camera with LED flash
  • 8. Fingerprint sensor, Infrared sensor
  • 9. Dimensions: 158.5 x 75.45 x 8.05mm; Weight: 180g
  • 10. 4G VoLTE, Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4GHz + 5GHz), Bluetooth 4.2, GPS + GLONASS
  • 11. 4000mAh (typcial) / 3900mAh (minimum) battery

          The rounded-corner is specially designed to reduce the risk of display damage by spreading force across a larger area.Redmi 5 Plus packs a large 4000 mAh battery, up to 17 days on standby and it is shipping with MIUI 9 along with game booster mode it is one of the features you must try. Redmi 5 Plus features Snapdragon 625 octa-core processor and we used most advanced 14nm FinFET technology which will improve the overall battery life. The beautify 3.0 enhances your natural beauty while preserving original facial details every time. Soft-toned selfie-light ensures you take a perfect selfie even in low light condition. We can capture stunning images by using 12 MP camera with a larger 1.25μm pixel size. What are the advantages of having a18:9 aspect ratio display? A big display for a better media and gaming experience.

Tech of the Month


  • 1. Samsung's Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) has developed a new battery technology with more capacity and extremely fast charging times.
  • 2. The new graphene-based technology could charge a battery in 12 minutes, where the same capacity battery could charge in an hour with standard fast charging.
  • 3. It could remove the risk of ever running out of battery simply because it could be more convenient to charge your devices.

          Samsung's Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) announced that it has been developing a new kind of battery technology that can fast-charge mobile devices and electric vehicles faster than ever before. For a battery that usually takes an hour to charge with current fast-charge technology, Samsung claims the new technology could fast-charge a battery in 12 minutes.

          Current fast charging is great, but Samsung's new battery could charge significantly faster. The new technology includes a single layer of carbon atoms from graphite, known as graphene, which is "100 times more effective than copper in conducting electricity." It also transfers energy "140 times faster" than silicon used in current lithium technology, which makes it "an ideal material for fast charge," according to Samsung. Samsung's new battery technology might even give mobile devices and electric vehicles more battery life compared to current batteries, as they have the potential for more capacity. It's unclear how much longer these batteries would last, but the extremely fast charging would make it more convenient to top off your device when you need a charge simply because it takes less time. So if you can spare the occasional five minutes here and there for a top up, you'll be less likely to run out of battery.

          Electric vehicles, like those from Tesla, could charge a lot faster thanks to Samsung's new technology.
The concept is exactly the same as today's fast-charging technology in smartphones, where 30 minutes of regular fast charging gets you 50% of battery charge. As its name suggests, fast charging is, indeed, faster than regular charging, which could take over two hours to fully charge a smartphone battery.

          This all sounds great, and Samsung has found a way to mass produce the technology at an "affordable price." But there's no mention of when, or if, Samsung would ever use its new battery technology in mobile devices and other electric devices.

  MIUI's Ahead
MIUI Gallery editing feature

          MIUI has always been a much more than just an OEM Android ROM, it has been an empowering method to reach the list of user goals, more importantly with less time consumption, in a more intuitive way, and above all, how to do this beautifully, repeatedly! MIUI 9 adds one more element to this, how do all this, in a Lightning Fast way. MIUI 9 introduces a whole new MIUI Gallery app focused majorly on all new editing options, aside from image viewing, cloud backup, and album management, the new image editing options make Gallery app more perfect and all in one bundle. Check out all new options below.

          MIUI developers have worked really very hard to bring these editing features and options to gallery app in MIUI 9 here we can edit out pictures with a lot more awesome than ever, and I have done some editing on my own picture let's have a look how I did and what are the options are available in it. You guys can see edit option near your picture itself just by one click we will get it like below 1st pic, when we click that we will be getting lots of options like beautify, crop, filter, sticker, doddle, text, adjust, mosaic, erase. Now let's check the stickers part we have lot's of stickers here as I am using China Developer ROM I will be having more stickers than global rom users, I have chosen cutie stickers to apply those snow effect but use the same sticker multiple times and I looks awesome for that background of my picture. Then I have chosen words sticker and applied the COOL logo sticker on the top right side.


          Now I have selected the comic stickers to apply the star on the bottom left corner, you guys can see how many stickers are available to say exactly there are 12 types of stickers available like cutie, words, comic, boom, my life, leaflets, school girl, plants, healthy chicken, funny girl, spring, summer.



          Now here comes the more exciting options Text we can add whatever text we want on the picture with bold and adding shadow thing to it to make it better on the picture, even we can adjust the picture like contrast, brightness etc and all. I am a bit crazy to say like this as I don't own dual camera device and I tried to make my picture as looks like portrait mode picture it is really crazy right but I tried my best to edit my own picture. here we can see an option called MOSAIC then we will get some more options in it like blur, stars, love symbols and some more to add them to picture to make it more awesome as now I have used blur option to make my background blur. I have blurred almost everything in the background as you guys can see the picture below and I made is successful.


          So now I want to remove the star on bottom left corner one and how can I remove it now? we have a way to remove it without undoing all the editing and again re-editing all things by using erase option, you guys can see how I have removed the star sticker just mark the area that you want to remove that's it see the next picture I have successfully removed that star sticker without any issues. So finally I want to make the picture even looks more portrait shot so we have filters options it is again we have a separate option called portrait, by choosing this options we have some beautiful filters in it and I have selected kids filter and made it more awesome. In filters, we have some more different types of filters like Landscape, food, film.


          So last but not least we have few more options like beautify and crop, in beautify we have the auto, food, landscape, portrait and I have selected portrait option to make it exact look as portrait mode shot and if we want we can crop the picture as we like here also we have some different ratios like 1:1, 3:4, 4:3, 16:9, 9:16 etc and free ratio.


Finally here is my pic after spending some time to edit it
Final pic.jpg

When will I get this version of Gallery app?
  • The new MIUI Gallery app is now available in MIUI China & Global Developer ROM and soon will be available across Stable ROMs too.

Discussion of the Month

Qualcomm Vs Kirin Vs Exynos

          So 2017 is coming to a close and there are three major SoC announcements from the big Android mobile chip vendors. Qualcomm just unveiled it's Snapdragon 845, Samsung recently gave away a few details about its next-generation Exynos 9810, and Huawei’s HiSilicon Kirin 970 is already available in a few products. We can’t compare these chips side by side yet, as we’re still waiting on 2018 flagship smartphones even to be announced. Samsung is also keeping some details about its latest hardware under wraps, for now, so we’ll have to make a few educated guesses. Based on the details revealed so far we can see a divergence in approaches to dealing with the latest mobile trends, which might give the most tech-savvy purchasers.

CPU designs diverge
          The introduction of 64-bit processors years ago was a big change for Android, but it generated some homogeneity between CPU design, as SoC vendors opted for quick implementation of off-the-shelf Arm parts to speed up development. Fast forward to today and chip designers have had time to explore their own designs once more. The Arm licensing ecosystem has expanded with new options for licensees too.

          Qualcomm has been making use of the “built on Arm Cortex technology” license for a couple of generations. The license offers numerous ways to customize an Arm CPU design while allowing Qualcomm to market the design under the Kryo brand name. Samsung is now in its third generation fully-custom Mongoose core that only licenses the Arm architecture. In theory, this fully custom design should allow Samsung to push its chip in more extreme directions. It could attempt to chase Apple’s performance crown, but history suggests the company is more interested in subtle improvements to micro-architecture parts like branch prediction, task scheduling, and cache coherency. Meanwhile, HiSilicon is sticking firmly with off the shelf components designed by Arm pretty much throughout its Kirin 970.


          In the past, this produced similar performance results, however, the latest ARMv8.2 architecture revision and the introduction of dynamic presents a major shift that will diversify performance. For example, moving big and LITTLE CPU cores into a single cluster should improve task sharing and energy efficiency, and new private L2 and shared L3 caches should further improve memory access and performance. The Cortex-A75 and A55 have also seen specific optimizations for popular machine learning instructions, although it’s possible a fully-custom design could improve this further. Qualcomm is quietly the first to hop onto the latest architecture revision, which puts it at an advantage unless Samsung has made big strides with the 9810’s custom core and sub-system.

          Huawei’s Kirin 970 uses last generation Cortex-A73 and A53 cores and the old two cluster design, so there are no special optimizations here. It’s certainly no slouch though, and this decision has allowed HiSilicon to invest development time into the second most notable difference between the three SoCs — their approach to machine learning and AI.

AI is the next-gen differentiator


          Huawei was keen to point out the capabilities of its dedicated Neural Processing Unit (NPU) inside the Kirin 970 during launch, which has been specifically designed to accelerate machine learning applications. Qualcomm, on the other hand, has an integrated Hexagon DSP that it uses for audio, imaging, and machine learning tasks. However, both appear to have a heterogeneous computing approach to powering AI, with CPU, GPU, and DSP all having a role to play in delivering maximum performance versus power efficiency. Qualcomm appears to have taken this a step further with the 845 though. It now features a shared system cache in addition to an L3 cache for the CPU and regular system RAM, which can be accessed by a variety of components inside the platform. This could greatly improve the chip’s resource sharing capabilities for machine learning, and probably partially explains the 3x performance boost Qualcomm is claiming.

          Unfortunately, we don’t yet know if Samsung has made changes to the AI capabilities of new its latest Exynos 9810, but we imagine the company would have mentioned something during the reveal if it had made a major change. The last generation 8895 model based most of its machine learning capabilities on a Heterogeneous System Architecture with cache coherency between the CPU and GPU, using the company’s in-house Samsung Coherent Interconnect. This is very much Arm’s take on developing for machine learning too, avoiding the expense of dedicated hardware until common AI use cases become clear.

All three platforms support machine learning and key APIs, but their hardware implementations are slightly different.

          Either way, this means future machine learning applications could run quite differently across all three of these flagship platforms. Not just in terms of performance, but also in terms of power consumed for a given tasks. Dedicated hardware and utilizing the latest ARMv8.2 architecture should give an edge here, at least in terms of power consumption. DSPs have been shown to consume a lot less power than CPUs or GPUs when performing certain tasks. Whether third-party developers will optimize for Qualcomm, Huawei, and Arm Computer Library SDKs, or pick one over the others, could tip the performance scales. It’s worth noting that Kirin 970 and Snapdragon 845 support Tensorflow / Tensorflow Lite and Caffe / Caffe2, and the Exynos 9810 should have similar access through either Samsung’s own SDK or the Arm Computer Library. Ultimately this is still an area of hardware development where the best solution is yet to be decided.

The fastest data & best multimedia possible

          There actually won’t be any divergence in 4G LTE speeds. All three of the chips feature integrated Category 18 LTE modems, boasting up to 1.2 Gbps down and 150 Mbps upload speeds on compatible networks. Importantly, these chips’ modems support global network compatibility, so we can see them in multiple regions.

          The three have also made similarly big pushes to support high-end media. 4K UHD video capture and playback are available across these flagship chips, and all three companies packed in dedicated processing units to handle these increasingly demanding tasks efficiently. On the content creation side, dual camera support again appears across the board, opening up possibilities for wide angle, monochrome, or optical zoom capabilities. Support for HDR-10 and 4K video recording is common, although Samsung boasts up to 120 fps video recording at this resolution, Qualcomm has just moved on to 60 fps, and the Kirin 970 only offers 30 fps 4K encoding. All of these are still boons for high-quality video enthusiasts though. Similarly, Huawei and Qualcomm have packed in a 32-bit 384 kHz capable DAC into their latest products for HiFi audio, but those numbers have little meaning on their own.

With 1.2 Gbps modems, dedicated security hardware, premium audio, and 4K HDR video support, the big three all have the major consumer trends covered.

There’s also a dedicated hardware security unit inside each chip. These are used to house fingerprint, facial scanning, and other personal biometric information, alongside cryptography keys for apps and OS level security that’s increasingly important these days. Especially as consumers continue to embrace online and mobile banking and payments using their smartphones.

Which will be the best?

          Ultimately, these chips cater to similar trends. It’s not surprising to see so much crossover in terms of the building blocks and feature set. The days of Qualcomm holding the integrated modem advantage are gone. These chips all cover essentials like performance, connectivity, and multimedia pretty well. Qualcomm might be the first to adopt the latest advances in Arm’s CPU architecture, but we are seeing the more meaningful divergence in the AI and machine learning spaces, with each vendor trying to find the best-integrated solution to power this increasingly popular technology.

          Because of this, raw performance benchmark tests are becoming increasingly irrelevant in today’s mobile SoC market. Chips cater to an increasingly broad range of uses and technologies. Picking the best processor based on a few scenarios misses the bigger picture. The best SoC enables device manufacturers to build products that cater to consumer demands, be that with the fastest smart assistant, best in class audio setup, or the handset with the longest battery life.

          Given that Huawei and Samsung are using these chips for their own smartphone products, they’re going to benefit from the kind of very tight integration that Apple is regularly lauded for. Qualcomm has to cast a wider net to cater to all of is potential customer demands, and the Snapdragon 845 certainly goes above and beyond in this regard. But who knows if OEMs will utilize all these features. We will have to wait until we can go hands-on with products side-by-side to see what each brings to the table, but all three chips look highly capable. They will no-doubt power some impressive handsets over the next twelve months.

          So what's your opinion guys which chipset vendor will bring the best to market vote below and share your thoughts on it in the comments section.


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15:31, Dec-18-2017 | From Mi MIX 2
Qualcomm, no doubt.

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15:35, Dec-18-2017 | From PC
Of course my choices is QUALCOMM.
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15:39, Dec-18-2017 | From PC
Qualcomm Obviously :)

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15:43, Dec-18-2017 | From Redmi 3S
Fantastic thread...
You are good ...
and Qualcomm....


cherri94 Thank you buddy  15:51, Dec-18-2017

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