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[Tech Wednesday] [Tech Wednesday #73] Paying With Facial Recognition: Would It Be Secure Enough?

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Mobile payment systems now very much developed. There are Fingerprint Sensor, IRIS Scanner, NFC etc. embedded for payments thru mobile. Some financial companies started using different body parts to identify transactions.

What if we start to pay using our Face?  The era is coming really soon! Face-detecting systems in China now can authorize payments, provide access to facilities, and track down criminals.

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So today we are going discuss about Paying With Your Face.


Face++(pronounced “face plus plus”) A Chinese Facial & Body Recognition tech startup valued at roughly a billion dollars,located in a suburb of Beijing, has a really innovative office where you may get in only if your face has been registered with its database, While your face is getting scanned, you may see it appear on several more screens, automatically captured from countless angles by the company’s software. On one screen a video shows the software tracking 83 different points on your face simultaneously. It’s a little creepy, but undeniably impressive.

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Technology from Face++ is already being used in several popular apps. It is possible to transfer money through Alipay, a mobile payment app used by more than 120 million people in China, using only your face as credentials. Meanwhile, Didi, China’s dominant ride-hailing company, uses the Face++ software to let passengers confirm that the person behind the wheel is a legitimate driver. (A “liveness” test, designed to prevent anyone from duping the system with a photo, requires people being scanned to move their head or speak while the app scans them.)

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Facial recognition has existed for decades, but only now is it accurate enough to be used in secure financial transactions. The new versions use deep learning, an artificial-intelligence technique that is especially effective for image recognition because it makes a computer zero in on the facial features that will most reliably identify a person.


Do You Think It's Secure Enough to Pay With Face Recognition?

Would You Like to Pay With Facial Recognition?




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